Comments for home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com not everything that counts can be counted Fri, 10 Jun 2011 04:38:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ Comment on Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by thad http://thadnorvell.com/2011/04/26/part-four-farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet/#comment-655 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 04:38:38 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=521#comment-655 Hi Kenneth, thanks for dropping by. I’m curious how you arrived here (at my site, not at your conclusions). Whatever the answer, welcome. I appreciate your contribution. I’m a former member of the team – not now an opposing player, simply not able to self-identify with the label any longer. I didn’t choose to leave the team – I was chosen to leave it. I’m not sure if that proves that I’m right or I’m wrong. I suppose we’ll find out in due time.

I’m curious if you can construct a scenario for 2011 by which a pastor or theologian could advocate and participate in the execution of a “heretic” based purely on his/her heretical beliefs and it be regarded as both orthodox and consistent with the Gospel. No pressure (or rush) to respond. Just curious.

]]> Comment on Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Kenneth Paul Dueck http://thadnorvell.com/2011/04/26/part-four-farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet/#comment-654 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:42:23 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=521#comment-654 I appreciate your post, despite being a firm member of team Calvin (John Calvin was the means God used to save my soul and wake me to him).

I’m however in a bit of a curious position agree whole heartedly with your conclusion, while disagreeing almost totally with your argument.

Oh well, I hope people are moved by your defense and strong emphasis on Love. Though generally I like seeing my doctrines expounded in terms of the Gospel and the Incarnation.

If you care at all about my disagreement I guess it would go like this, I don’t think you’re really approaching Calvin on his own terms. For instance, what is the sense and extension of a Doctrine of Love when Unconditional Election and Unconditional reprobation are thought to be true? Especially if your Calvin and you have a Gospel focused theology where the demand that we love means the same thing as saying God demands that we love who He loves in the same way He does. Generally such a view wouldn’t be distinguishable from the evangelical conception that God love everyone (seeing how we are ignorant of our fellows destiny and we are still bound to emulate Christ’s character of love), but if you confronted Calvin (and all the surrounding countries) with a person who he can know to not be a member of the elect?

After all at no point since Arius has the orthodox allowed someone to be called a Christian who knowingly denies the Trinity.

It is then hardly surprising that finding him to be spreading dangerous false hoods and to have broken the Law (not just in Geneva but in France, where they also sought extradition for his execution), inflicting a quick death would be the merciful thing to do.

I don’t really agree with everything Calvin believed, but I don’t see where exactly he stepped outside of orthodoxy (unless being reformed precludes one from being orthodox).

]]> Comment on Part Three – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Rachel http://thadnorvell.com/2011/04/21/part-three-farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet/#comment-650 Tue, 03 May 2011 16:21:55 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=503#comment-650 The more I read this, the more I wish I went to your church. Or lived in the same state as your church. (lol) :-) Thanks for the thoughts; this discussion is invigorating and encouraging.

]]> Comment on Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Part Three – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet « home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com/2011/04/26/part-four-farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet/#comment-647 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:59:59 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=521#comment-647 [...] ← Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet Part Three is not a mythical tease… [...]

]]> Comment on Part Three – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Part Two – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet « home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com/2011/04/21/part-three-farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet/#comment-646 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:58:48 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=503#comment-646 [...] Three (now here) still to come…a new (old) kind of heresy and the demands of honesty and love Possibly [...]

]]> Comment on Part Two – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Part One – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet « home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com/2011/03/25/farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet-part-2/#comment-645 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:57:43 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=436#comment-645 [...] ← Part Two – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet Letter from a Birmingham Jail [...]

]]> Comment on Part Two – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by mdmcginn http://thadnorvell.com/2011/03/25/farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet-part-2/#comment-644 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:31:00 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=436#comment-644 Has everything orthodox already been taught? A professor told us that one of his first assignments after seminary was to teach systematic theology during the East African Revival (talk about students teaching the teacher). He spent the semester confidently lecturing through his seminary notes, but for his last class, asked the young African pastors for any questions that he might have missed.

Every hand went up. Somehow the theologians who wrote his seminary textbooks had neglected to cover how to handle polygamy or witchcraft, which these pastors had to handle daily.

]]> Comment on Part Three – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet « home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com/2011/04/21/part-three-farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet/#comment-643 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:12:44 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=503#comment-643 [...] Part Three – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet [...]

]]> Comment on Part Two – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet « home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com/2011/03/25/farewell-charity-the-day-rob-bell-and-john-piper-broke-the-internet-part-2/#comment-642 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:12:42 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=436#comment-642 [...] orthodoxy when we feel meaningful truth is up for grabs. I encourage you to read Part One, Part Two, and Part Three of this series before you read the words [...]

]]> Comment on Part One – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet by Part Four – Farewell charity: The day Rob Bell and John Piper broke the internet « home anywhere http://thadnorvell.com/2011/03/23/farwell-charity-the-day-john-piper-and-rob-bell-broke-the-internet-part-1/#comment-641 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:12:38 +0000 http://thadnorvell.com/?p=411#comment-641 [...] and historical orthodoxy when we feel meaningful truth is up for grabs. I encourage you to read Part One, Part Two, and Part Three of this series before you read the words [...]

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